I sat down for a chat with Catherine van der Meulen, from Entrepreneurial Women With Purpose (among many other things). Originally from Sydney, Catherine came from a background working in the family business in the fast fashion industry, and now works with young women in agriculture.

She co-founded 'Girls who Grow' in Aotearoa NZ, and this was always going to be a fun conversation.

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