Settle in for a listen to our third annual ‘State of the Nation’ interview with acclaimed Newsroom journalist and deep thinker, Rod Oram. I always find it fun to sit down with him and discuss what’s percolating away inside his thinkery. Rod invariably has a range of topics that he wants to expand on, and this year is no different. Get up to date on what’s going on in the world and hear Rod’s hopes for Aotearoa in 2022.

This podcast brought to your ears with the support of Te Awanga Estate.